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My gay protagonist in affecting my career.

Hello, I’m an author looking for a place to vent. I’m sure a lot of you would rather not read my rant, but I can’t think of where else to turn to right now. I have three published books that I sold on my own to small presses. I’ve been looking for an agent recently and a publisher for my latest manuscript, unfortunately the first response I get after querying someone is excitement, until I send them more details about the book and they realize my protagonist is gay and there is a central gay romance. I really do think this issue has a lot to do with the book being categorized as sci-fi. I’m considering gutting the book and making the characters straight, or keeping their sexuality under wraps. It has been very explicitly stated to me that because of the bold, unblinking look at the protagonist's sexuality, I will not get this book sold anytime soon.

 

Now, I don’t see a lot of gays in sci-fi, so I figure, what do I know? Maybe these people are right and publishers don’t want to take on a project that will alienate some readers. I’ve tried reaching out to gay friendly publishers, but because the story is not specifically themed toward dealing with homosexual issues, and there are prominent straight characters as well, there seems to be no interest.

 

My last attempt will be Baen. I’ve seen gay sci-fi characters in their books. After that I think I’m giving up on the manuscript as it is. I’d love to see the book published with gay characters, but I’d love to successfully further my career more.


Sakhmet's picture

Do not gut, do not give up!

There are presses on Amazon.com that will allow you to self publish there.  Hell, there are presses that only allow gay content.  One off the top of my head you can go through is IUniverse, they publish gay sci-fi books like crazy.  I'm not sure how you go about contacting these presses, I think the amazon forums would have links.

There is not enough gay in sci-fi out there.  That publisher has no idea what they are talking about. I won't buy regular science fiction books, I'm sick of all the hetero bullshit.

And, once you have published the book, either through a firm or through self publishing firm, you can promote your book like crazy over the net.  Your target audience is most likely lurking there instead of in book stores.

attemptive's picture

I haven’t met one author

I haven’t met one author yet who has made money or a big splash in the industry through self publishing. It was something I considered with my first novel, but I held out and finally found a small press who put it in print three times and had the opportunity to sell it to a bigger publisher if there was interest. Just on principal alone, even if my novel became popular, most publishers will not take on a self published book simply on principle alone, unless it has sold a lot of copies, which would cost me a lot of out of pocket money I do not have. “That publisher has no idea what they are talking about.” Actually, sadly, they do. They compare most of the novels they take on to novels they have sold in the past with a similar book to see how well it would sell and what the target audience would be. Unfortunately, while gay fantasy is selling, gay sci-fi just isn’t there yet. Even if the publisher is wrong, even if it can sell to gay audiences well, there isn’t a huge market for gays buying sci-fi, versus gays buying the traditional, specifically homosexual issue themed literature I have mentioned. There’s always the chance that, not only will straight people not want to buy it because of gay characters, but that there really aren’t that many gay people out there who read the type of novel I write, and most of their minds probably won’t be changed just because the novel features gay characters.  “I won't buy regular science fiction books, I'm sick of all the hetero bullshit.” 

I feel the same way, but it seems like the market has not caught up with us. I’d love to be the first to have a gay protagonist in a major selling sci-fi book, but I have to focus on reality, and the odds of reality are currently against me.

Marea67's picture

don't de-gay your book

I agree. Don't de-gay or change the characters, if THAT is the book you meant to write, the way you want the story to be told and you truly believe in the story, in its content, in its characters, then don't de-gay your book.

I can understand that you want to sell books and move ahead in your career, but if you've put a lot of attention, time and care in your characters, why throw them away? Won't it give the story a sour taste? Will you still love your work if it will feel like 2nd choice, because you were forced to make changes you didn't agree with, deep in your heart?  

Of course, if you don't care about that, by all means, change YOUR character(s) into whatever OTHERS want them to be like and join the list of countless other writers who write the hetero-predictable stuff.

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Darrien's picture

Possibly?

There's a new LGBT publishing company that's just been set up called Young Offenders. You could try them.

More details: http://www.doorq.com/Blog.aspx?b=3103

I hope you have the very best of luck with your work.

 

attemptive's picture

Thanks for the link! I'll

Thanks for the link! I'll try.
DebMA's picture

Networking possibly helpful?

 

Maybe you can get in touch with some other authors of GLBT sci-fi and get some advice (or maybe an agent recommendation?).   Are you familar with the Gaylactic Spectrum Awards -- http://www.spectrumawards.org/ -- it's an award for GLBT sci-fi, fantasy and horror.   You might get some insight into publishers from there.

A quick look at my bookshelf and most of my recent GLBT genre stuff is fantasy rather than sci-fi.  But I'm sure there is gay sci-fi being published, so keep at it until you get the right fit for you.  Good luck!

 

Jared1080's picture

We Need gay characters

Please don't degay your work.  We need all the gay characters we can get.  I am a so far unpublished writer but I determined long ago that I would write works with gay characters and not back away from that position.  My take on it is, if I as a gay man won't write about gays who will?  In the end you will have to do what you feel is best I just hope that that includes being true to your characters and your work.
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Scott Tracey's picture

Definitely Don't Give Up

There ARE agents and publishers out there who don't shy away from gay characters or gay romances in books.  I guess the trick is in finding the right fit.  I had some concerns over querying for my book, because of the gay romance, but I not only found an agent but the book ended up selling to a quality publisher.  Its a smaller market, yes, but there IS still a market there.

Don't give up hope - everyone goes through the period of rejection.  Just commit yourself to improving your craft every day, and keep putting yourself out there.

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RanderDeon's picture

It's funny

Because I'm also writing a sort of story including a homosexual main character, and I guess I might just be going through the same thing once it's done. Scary.

I'm glad you haven't given up yet, and I really want to know what happened after you tried that gay publishing company. 

Brent Hartinger's picture

I can GUARANTEE the "de-gayed" book won't sell

There are a lot of crappy books published, but most of those are rip-offs (which are usually done in-house or by authors who are well-known) or contractually obligated books that the publisher had no choice but to publish. These days, virtually the ONLY way for a writer to land a book at a major house is to write a good book about a fresh new idea. Editors are DYING for books like these (because they can be snapped up cheap and, frankly, they're pretty rare). If an agent is telling you it's the "gay" thing, that's just an indication that they don't know the gay market, not an assessment of the market itself. As others have said, there is a market, and plenty of people have had good success (including, ahem, myself).

 

But if you continue to find rejection, you might take a cold hard look at the manuscript itself. Maybe there's a problem you haven't spotted yet.

 

Check out my new fantasy website: TheTorchOnline.com. It's like AfterElton.com for fantasy geeks! And I Twitter

attemptive's picture

I really doubt that agents

I really doubt that agents and houses wouldn't tell me there is something wrong with my book if there was. There's no way that its perfect, but it's polished and finished, just like my previous ones were before I submitted them. These people have no reason to mention my gay character unless they truly feel this way. While I appreciate your advice I'm seeing a trend with this advice, the trend is this, the people trying to give it to me do not have experience with the science fiction market. I have, the people who have adviced me have, so no offense, but that is an important thing to have. Just because you've written even fantasy, you can not assume how the science fiction market works. And what I find most interesting is that people seem to believe that just because there is a market for something, that automically means a publisher somewhere will take it on. There's a market out there for a lot of things, it depends on what has selled the best in the past though, what has a track record of being successful, and gay sci-fi isn't there yet.

 

Every sci-fi book I've written has sold before this one. The last three did not have gay characters, so please keep your gaurantees to yourself.

Brent Hartinger's picture

Dude, posting here implies you want reactions

I'm sorry my reaction, based on 20 years in publishing and hundreds of conversations with editors and agents, didn't meet your pre-approved checklist. But trust me, I'll definitely keep all my future advice to myself. And if my mild comments provoke such a prickly response from you, you might try keeping your future posts to yourself too.

 

 

Check out my new fantasy website: TheTorchOnline.com. It's like AfterElton.com for fantasy geeks! And I Twitter


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