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The ultimate fighter.

 I don't know how many, if any, of you guys follow ultimate fighting, or mixed martial arts(MMA), so let me get you up to speed.The ultimate fighter is a highly rated reality show on Spike TV that takes 16 of the country's top MMA fighters, and sticks them in a house.They live and train together, competeing for a $100,000 contract with the ultimate fighting championship(UFC).Every week they have a 3 round match, and the loser gets eliminated from the competetion.Tonight is the third episode of the sixth season.

I don't remember how I got started watching it, but I was interested from the start.I was just as quickly turned off by something one of the fighters did.Loden Cincaid comes walking down the stairs at the house, in what I think was the second episode, in skin tight animal print spandex short shorts, shaking his ass, purposely dropping his supplements on the floor, so he could bend over to pick them up in front of the other fighters.He went up to one of the guys in his underwear going "can I have get hug?", and he said "f*ck that".A couple of the guys, while giggling, actually said "You're so homophobic".The rest of 'em thought this was just the funniest thing.I didn't.

Now, I try not to be the kind of person who has a knee jerk overreaction and I guess he was just joking, but that bothered me.Something I think definately warrants being offended is a situation that occured in season three.Rory, One of the fighters in that season was pretty finicky about things like his food, so these assh*les decide to write "Rory is gay" on his things including his food.Last season one of the fighters kept refering to one of the guys he hated and everything he did as gay.Those incidents along with a few others and the comments i've read on the Spike TV/ultimate fighter website don't paint an enlighted picture of the guys who are on and watch the show.

I don't know why I subject myself to this.I guess I was hoping to be surprised.Not only was I hoping one of the fighters would be gay, but that Maybe one one of them would say "hey, that's not cool with me""my friend's gay", or "my brother's gay", something like that, but i'm always just disappointed.Has anyone else seen this show?What do you think about this?

UPDATE: Here's a video from SpikeTV.com of one of this season's fighters explaining his political views.He is a perfect example of what I'm talking about.

Episode 3: War Machine discuss his political views, health and medicine.

Posted Oct 03, 2007

War Machine discuss his political views, health and medicine.

The Ultimate Fighter air's Wednesday's at 10PM on Spike.

Once again, I decided to watch this because I saw "political views", and was hoping to be surprised by hearing something progressive, but instead I heard a complete d*ck say something stupid.It's just words, and I shouldn't let it get to me, but it really just makes me sad.I really hope this guy doesn't reproduce.


niksuncle's picture

Gay slurs in TV/culture

I don't know about you guys in the US but it's common to hear teenagers in the UK use the phrase "that's so gay" to describe anything they don't like.  I find this very alarming and believe that any TV show should take steps to address that sort of behaviour straight away.

Those guys on Ultimate Fighter should have been kicked off the show at once although, by the sound of it, the series would have ended as all the fighters appeared homophobic.

You may recall the recent race row on Celebrity Big Brother and Big Brother this year.  In both examples, a housemate was evicted for using unacceptable language.  However, when one of the guys put down another (straight) guy with a gay slur, nothing was said.  He wasn't even warned.

I was heartened to see that a contestant left Hell's Kitchen this year after making homophobic comments to a colleague.  But still, he walked due the very vocal disgust of his colleagues and not because he was kicked off the show.

The public need to be reminded that homophobic behaviour is just as unacceptable as racism.

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You may recall the recent

You may recall the recent race row on Celebrity Big Brother and Big Brother this year. In both examples, a housemate was evicted for using unacceptable language. However, when one of the guys put down another (straight) guy with a gay slur, nothing was said. He wasn't even warned.

Interesting, as I recall there was an incident where a woman called a straight man a gay slur (which sounded like she was saying the equivalent of "You're so gay") and controversy over her not being booted for it. I didn't know there was another incident.

I find that incident an interesting contrast since the US Big Brother also had a housemate saying homophobic (as well as misogynistic and racist) things recently. Nothing was done to him, aside from him being edited and heavily sanitized for broadcast (of course, the whole thing can be found on YouTube). I though at least on the UK Big Brother they pulled her aside and told her that it wasn't acceptable behavior. In the US version the one who said that all the gays in West Hollywood have AIDS was the beneficiary of producer interference that won him the season.
JBE's picture

My partner has watched

parts of it (he likes martial arts and has taken karate) so I have caught glimpses of it.  The behaviour you described by one fighter was not only very immature but to me signals some latent same-sex attractions.

The fact is there is still a sizable segment of the hetero male world that is, let us say not too bright, and still caught up in that macho bulls**t which equates being physically tough with being a "man".  Ice hockey and football have a significant number of these guys as well.  They equate being physically weak with being a fag (I am impressed they are using the word gay in this show).  I endured these taunts with just about every male between grades 6 and 13 and to a much lesser extent in University.

The times are changing though, in hockey homophobic and super-macho goon behaviour is probably less than it was 30 years ago, partially due to the influx of European players (Europeans especially Scandinavians are more liberal than North Americans), but also due to the changing of how young males are socialized.  Hetero males today are much more likely to be exposed to less stereotypical gay males.  For instance my 21 year-old nephew and his male friends know that my partner and I are gay and we do not fit any stereotypes.  In the 1970's openly gay "straight-acting" males were extremely rare, they are much more common now.  This increased exposure to gays is probably why in a survey of hockey players the majority of players indicated they would have no problems having a gay teammate, that question would have gotten a very different answer 30 even 20 years ago.

Cheers

JBE

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Homophobia and office behaviour

Thanks JBE - I enjoyed reading your perspective on this.

In a previous post, I mentioned that I work for a gay-friendly employer - Ford Motor Company.  I served as Chair of their LGBT group, GLOBE, for a couple of years and have noticed that homophobia still rears its ugly head from time to time, but mainly in the manufacturing plants.

I think today's modern office worker is bright enough not to make homophobic comments in the office but I'm not so sure that factory workers are as switched-on.  Now, I'm not implying that this is an intelligence issue (I used to work in a factory myself) but an overall sophistication that is lacking.

I'm sure that some of my office colleagues are homophobic.  In fact, one executive, who served on the diversity council, cracked a homophobic joke to me in the company gym, not realising who I was.  At the time we were both naked so I let it go but I did drop by his office later in the day and introduce myself.  He went very pale.

It sounds like this behaviour still needs stamping out in sports.  Indeed, there is a campaign to end homophobia in football in the UK.

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Evan's picture

Unspoken

As I mentioned in my post about closeted gay men on TV gay men have higher levels of free testosterone than straight men.  Gay men are also more likely to be left handed than straight men which is an advantage in sports like martial arts, tennis, and hockey.  So I have no idea why there are no openly gay men in the sport.  Ben Patrick Johnson interviewed a former Ultimate Fighter who is gay.  I strongly suspect that there is a strong gay culture in Ultimate Fighting as there is in bodybuilding, wrestling and boxing.

I think the anti-gay sentiment in Ultimate Fighting as well as any team sport is both a subconscious and conscious reaction to being around men almost all the time.  In there mind they have to prove that the sport is as straight as possible even though they are homosocial and homoerotic.

homoguy563's picture

Former ultimate fighter?

 Thanx for the link, Evan, but I checked out the youtube clip you linked to, and it never mentioned ultimate fighting.All it said was the guy was an ex-porn star.

UPDATE:I checked Aaron Savvy's myspace page, and he was on Toughman, a show where amature fighters would step in the ring to fight.It was on FX.I barely remember it.It wasn't the UFC, and not quite MMA.Also, his orientation isn't mentioned.By the way, I'll be touching on his porn career as an example in an upcoming thread.(I literally have a whole list of things to start forum topics about.)

Evan's picture

Profile Savvy

Toughman became UFC.  His profile at Tango Blue tells more about his background.  Here is what his profile:

Aaron “Ajay” Savvy fought his way onto the FX Network original series TOUGHMAN (Now Spike TV’s Ultimate Fighting Championship) where Aaron was a featured fighter on the program for three seasons. With a total of eight fights under his belt racking up five wins and three losses, Aaron showed that he indeed is one "Tough Man"!  Aaron’s intense background in fitness and nutrition has landed him a position with EnvyMan Magazine as a fitness columnist, making his debut in the August 2007 issue of the bi-monthly publication. Aaron’s intense abdominal routine will also be featured in Exercise For Men Only this July with a full photo spread and workout routine written by Aaron.

Aaron’s modeling work includes work for clothing companies Andrew Christian, N2N and Undergear. Aaron was chosen by world-renowned artist Filippo Ioco to take part in a provocative body painting work commissioned for the Southern Decadence Festival, taking place in New Orleans this September.

Aaron was born into a Mormon family in San Dimas, California, but shortly after that relocated to Seattle, Washington. As a sports player, Aaron played football and college baseball. Aaron also made an impression by taking 3rd in Washington State's Arm Wrestling Championship. Now here in Hollywood, California, Aaron is back home and working as a personal trainer while pursuing his modeling and acting career. He played in an alternative rock band back in Seattle, and as a DJ at a radio station, Aaron was fired for giving away $100 of his own cash on his show. Subsequently Aaron appeared on the Howard Stern Show, as apparently no other DJ had ever given away his own money before. Then o the surprise of many, upon his return from two years as a missionary for the Mormon Church, Aaron came out to his family!

JBE's picture

Pretty amazing

CV, just goes to show you that we are in every walk of life!

Cheers

JBE

homoguy563's picture

My mistake.

 I stand corrected.Evan, I love that you know so much, and can find out anything.I'm glad I now have a gay hero in the area of combative sports even if he's not fighting anymore.Evan, does he represent?....That is to say, is he like Billy Bean, Dave Kopay, or Esera Tuola?

Those goes guys all came out and represented, being at all of the gay functions like the GLAAD and HRC awards, being on the cover of the advocate, things like that, but some really aren't interested in that.Which camp is he in?It would be so cool if a current high profile UFC fighter came out, and did all of those things like John Ameche.

Evan's picture

Gay to a Select Few

I haven't been able to find anything that says he does outreach.  He works for Envy Man magazine as a fitness columnist.  Being represented by Tango Blue, a gay agency, and known by Ben Patrick Johnson I think that he is pretty well known in the Seattle and Los Angeles gay community.  He doesn't mention being gay on his myspace page.  Putting everything together I think he is only comfortable letting those that are accepting of gay people know he is gay. 
homoguy563's picture

Wishful thinking.

 I always hope that people in that position will come out in full pride mode.

michael's picture

That clip is priceless, but I agree with one thing he says.

I, too, wish he had been born 10,000 years ago!
Evan's picture

Devolution

You shouldn't worry about War Machine, he isn't bright.  "The strong will survive" is not how evolution works as he believes.  The best adapted will servive is a more accurate way of describing evolution.

JBE's picture

Darwin would be proud

of you Evan for trying to correct one of the biggest misconceptions of his theory of evolution.  He never said "the strong will survive" but those species that are best adapted to their environment will survive.  Makes me wonder whether the human race will survive considering what we are doing to the environment!  But that is another topic for another day.

Cheers

JBE


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