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Interview With Kathy Griffin (page 2)
by Michael Ricci, February 13, 2007

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AE: Have you ever had that little voice inside your head that says, "Gee, maybe I should cut back so I can appeal to a wider audience"?
KG:
Constantly! I'm just not good at it! You know, Jay Leno used to be at my ass every time I did his show about "Why do you have to swear?" And, "I made $250,000 every time I do a corporate gig, because I don't swear." And I'm [like], "Jay, I swear because that's how I think. Those are the words I use to express myself." And, f--- you, I sold out Carnegie Hall three weeks ago. So there's room for everybody.

AE: Congratulations for selling out Carnegie Hall.
KG:
Thank you. It's very exciting.

AE: Is that for Bravo or something else?
KG:
No — here's the best part! Bravo was too cheap to pay for it. So while the reality show covered me for going into the theater and coming out, and going for a sandwich at the corner deli, they wouldn't go in and pay for even one minute of it. So you just have to take my word for it that I got a standing ovation. And it's really pathetic me going, "No, really, they stood and everything!" I did tape my latest Bravo special about a week later. It's called Everybody Can Suck It. That's going to premiere, I think, in April. Bravo hates that title!

AE: I can imagine.
KG:
I know, and they're all, "You're never going to get an Emmy nomination with that title." I go, "I'm not going to get nominated for one of my specials, anyway." So, everybody can suck it.

AE: Who are some of the new celebrities you poke fun at in your comedy act?
KG:
I am obsessed with a show called Paula Abdul Idol, [as] I've retitled the show. I am fascinated with how Paula cannot seem to keep her head up. Nor can she seem to keep both of her eyes open at the same time. That's the kind of s--- I live for! I love watching her head bob. I love watching her reach for the big class of Coca-Cola filled with a lot of vodka in it. I'm not the bartender, but I'm assuming. I'm thinking there might be a slight chance it's more than Coca-Cola.

AE: Now I understand why so many gay men love you.
KG:
Well, I'm going there. That's why I love gay audiences. Because they will f---ing go there. I love it! That's a comedian's dream.

AE: Speaking of a not-so-friendly gay —
KG:
Ryan Seacrest? That was terrible!

AE: The guy I mean is a complete 180 from Ryan Seacrest because this guy's so not attractive.
KG:
[Laughs.] I think I know who you're talking about!

AE: Who?
KG:
I think you're talking about Perez Hilton.

AE: What do you think about his guerilla tactics in outing celebrities like Lance Bass and Neil Patrick Harris?
KG:
I don't really do that. I make fun of Clay [Aiken], and I call him "Gaykin" and stuff. But the truth is — and I say this every single show — I don't say Clay's gay. I don't have any proof. I don't have any pictures. I don't know if Clay should come out. Personally, I don't think he should come out. I mean if he's going to be Barry Manilow and his fan base is going to be women, have at it! I don't want to ruin someone's freakin' career! So, I really don't believe in that.

I think Perez has the right to print all the stuff that he prints. And God knows it's fun to read. We all have the right to think it's readable or not readable.

AE: What do you think about his attacks on you?
KG:
I'm happy to be on his blog in any way, shape or form. Me? I don't shy away from an unflattering picture. I never have. I read it every so often, but I don't read it every day. And whenever someone says I was on Perez again, I think it's good for me. All I hear is the guy has a lot of hits on his website, and I'm thinking that's more people who clicked on my name than would normally. So I'll take it. When you're on the D-List, you're not trying to get the cover of Vanity Fair. You're just happy to be on Perez Hilton, even if it's a nasty comment.

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