AE: Right, I just
think it’s going to be great for Middle America
to see someone who’s so completely confident and comfortable in his sexuality
doing something different than styling hair. They’re sort of used to seeing us
in certain types of shows and it’s nice to see you hosting a show like this.
NB: To be very
frank, you know what was surprising for me when I came out on The Oprah Winfrey Show when we did the
show about the tsunami: the feedback that I got from Middle
America. I sort of wondered whether or not [they would react
positively]. Of course, I didn’t care because I went on the show to tell my
story and present my relationship with Fernando [Fernando Bengochea was Berkus' partner who died in the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami which Nate survived] as exactly what it was. But it
was shocking the amount of support that I got from the people that you would
least expect it from, from the demographic that you would least expect it from.
That was very encouraging for me.
AE: So you think perhaps
we underestimate those folks?
NB: I do. I think we’re underestimating them. Obviously bigotry, hatred and
all those things exist in our society, in every society, but I do think that we
tend to underestimate what we think “Middle America”
is feeling. I’m not conscious of the fact that when I step out in front of a
camera that I’m a gay man. I’m conscious of
the fact that I’m a man and I have a job to do and I have obligations and
responsibilities and I want to be as straightforward as possible.
AE: And you do your
job well. It’s great to watch.
NB: Oh, thank
you.
AE: Did you have any
gay role models when you were growing up and dealing with your
sexuality, that you sort of looked at and thought “Okay, I can be the sort of
gay man that I want to be?”
NB: No. I didn't.
AE: Your parents were
very supportive of your being creative as a boy. How were they when you came
out?
NB: My parents
are both supportive. Initially they went through a process that I can only
describe as mourning. Because I feel like any parent who has any goals for
their children or any sort of preconceived notion about how their children’s’
lives are going to turn out, when you tell them something that will alter that,
your parents have to deal with the disappointment in that their own dreams and
expectations aren’t the same as yours.
So I was respectful of that, but I was also very strong in
saying this is who I am, this is what my life is and I really need you guys to be
on board with this because I don’t want to be one of those people that feels I
can’t bring my partner home for holidays and we won’t know each other really.
It is the difference to me between having an obligatory relationship and a
voluntary relationship.
AE: That’s almost
exactly what I said to my parents. How old were you when you came out to them?
NB: 19.
AE: Is there any more
television in your future?
NB: Your guess is
as good as mine. I’m really thankful for the opportunities that I’ve been
given. I’m really excited about being a part of this show for several reasons.
If another project comes along and I can be as connected to it as I am to The Big Give, then why not?
Berkus and the cast of Oprah's Big Give