Anthony Rapp hosts Broadway Beauty Pageant

I don't agree with who won.  Marty Thomas has a womanly-shaped body.  His legs are big compared to his underdeveloped torso which gives him an hour glass shape.  Tommy Berklund should have won.  His body is proportionate and he dressed very sexy.  Gay men, in general, are attracted to men with wide shoulders and small waists.  Marty like some gay men with muscles neglect developing their lats, delts, traps, and other upper back muscles to create that V-shape taper desired by gay men.

The crown, a woman's crown, is an object of oppression.  It completely undermines Marty and his sexual appeal.  Women across the world have been subjugated.  Effeminacy has been attributed to gay men as a way to oppress us and to sabotage our sexual appeal to other gay men.

The V-shape you speak of has been proven time and time again to be the standard of what women and men who want to be with other men find attractive about ALL men. Pick up any psychology book... I am not a betting man but I bet that any alleged lack of muscle balance has zero correlation with sexual orientation.

Women have inded did subjugated but what the hell does that have to do with this frothy contest? Some gay men want to own their effeminacy and how great is that? Have you ever thought that like sexual orientation, there might be a fey gene and that we should embrace it just as much as we would a hypermacho gene that some might mistake as trying to be straight-acting? Maybe Marty is getting more a$$ than you, but if that is the case it's not due to any sabotage.

I seriously hope that your post was tongue in cheek.

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My original post had everything to do with the contest.  I talked about why I thought another contestant should have won and why the crown given to the winner is not an object of celebration but an object of oppression for gay men.

I compared Marty's body with Tommy Berklund's body.  Both are gay men.  I said Marty's musculature is disproportionate with some muscles being overdeveloped while others are underdeveloped.  I said Tommy's musculature was proportionate and attractive.  There are a few gay men that develop disproportionate bodies like Marty's, that comes from my observation of seeing many gay men's bodies.  It is you that assumed I was comparing Marty's body to straight males.

A study of gay gym clients workout patterns to non-gay gyms clients workout patterns showed that male clients at the gay gyms had similar workout patterns to clients in non-gay gyms except for the amont of time spent on upper body exercise.  Male clients at the gay gym worked out their upper body substantially more than those at non-gay gyms.  Another study tested straight and gay men's ideas of what makes a male attractive and found similar results.  Straight and gay men did not differ on the charactistics except for shoulder to hip ratio.  Gay men found men with wider shoulders and narrower hips to be more attractive.

Effeminacy is learned.  A study on gay, lesbian, bisexual and straight speech production showed that GLB people learn a particular way of speeching.  The study concluded "gay men in these studies have at most adopted aspects of female speech that convey social engagement and emotional expressiveness" and "they appear to be learned."

If someone wants to comment after any of my comments they can, I'm not stopping them.

From the Oscar-nominated Broadcast News:

Paul Moore: It must be nice to always believe you know better, to always think you're the smartest person in the room.

Jane Craig: No. It's awful.

It's too bad that voters at Broadway Beauty Contest did not have your second-to-none expertise and what seems to be an unusually high SDO to set them straight as to what their barometer for a victory should have been, to put down their chosen crown style, to deconstruct and critique the winner's womanly hour glass figure, and fully reframe their evening to suit your agenda. Maybe the winner is also really fey and even has a crush on the straight Gail Harrold.

<"I don't believe you were attracted to your boyfriend.">

No, of course you don't; that wouldn't fit into your neatly packaged, narcisisstic view of anyone else so you just discard it.

You don't know me. You don't know anything about my what my relationship with Michael was like. Until you do take the time to get to know me (which will never happen, believe me) instead of simply dismissing my life like it was dirt on your shoes, keep your judgemental decrees about who I love and who I don't to yourself.

This one goes out to Dave, Dennis (where pertinent), and anyone else who might want to read some stream of consciousness thoughts on the disturbing posts that I found in this thread today after I washed my hands of it yesterday.

I've been on this site for less time than Dave and a little more than Dennis. Both of you write in ways that allow others to get to know you. At least that is what I think. You guys are fun to dance with as you seem genuinely interested in learning/sharing than in indoctrinating or putting others down. The same does not seem to apply to all, even a select few who actually think that they are smarter than everyone else. Evan reminds me of Bible-thumpers who can’t almost help themselves by lecturing about things they know a tiny bit about. Their arrogance, need for attention, emptiness, and who the heck knows what else seems to disconnect them from other humans, so that their dialogue is framed as a contest. Sharing/learning from others is not an option.

Dave- At the risk of sounding like a sap, I'd like to express to express my sympathies about a loss that must have been gut-wrenching. Real empathy comes easily to mos, but obviously not all. I have yet to check out the top 100 thread, so this is the first that I read of what I would categorize as a repugnant, vicious, and beyond cowardly attack on you by someone who would seem to either a paid plant or in dire need of serious psychological help. I assume the latter as my dealings with the AE staff make me as certain as a person can be that the AE would never go that route.

Evan’s follow-up to Dave me seems even worse than his initial attack as he had the time to look at what he wrote and issue a mea culpa as we all cross lines and there is no doubt in my mind that he did. If he had any shame or humanity, he’d beg for mercy and apologize, if only bilaterally. Evan even went for the jugular by playing Dr. Phil with something that he had no right to touch. It took about 3 or 4 exchanges for me to obtain my own answers about the value (or lack thereof) in this community of a member like Evan.

What I am about to say is not very original, but simply reflects how we used to get rid of the trash over in another forum when attention-seeking posters arrived. We’d first confront them head on en mass and once there was a general consensus, any disruptive member would be ignored no matter how insulting, ridiculous, they got. Sometimes they re-appeared with new screen names but there was a sense of pride in not allowing one member to ruin the fun of others. Disagreements are welcomed, but slimy attacks and imperialistic domination was not. It’s a little harder here as the number of posters is smaller and some are not on often enough to get a feel for what is going on.

My intention is to never respond to anything Evan has to say nor engage him as he is nothing without attention. I indeed was the one who initiated the contact with him about usurping the BBP post. I did not want to jump to a final conclusion without giving him one last chance to show me that there was more to him than the absolutist rants that seemed to stand out in my mind.

I am not surprised that he refers to it as a “debate,” when I was simply doing my due diligence before cutting bait. I have no interest in “proving” anything to anyone, especially a fully closeted member who in real-life may be look like Bruce Vilanch, sound like Richard Simmons on a butch day, or may not even be gay, or a man, or who the heck knows. He hides quite well.

If anyone enjoys this guy, have at him as you have every right to enjoy his shtick. This post is directed to the many who find him to be a nuisance, especially those who he’s gone after hard, like Dave, who bruised Evan’s fragile ego with “0”s. I guess Evan still feels that there is a way to make it out the lower ranks in the numbers game. Poor sap. It seems like Dave found his weak spot as Evan seems wants popularity and supremacy. Even a certain unpopular president is ready to accept his low popularity ratings as he strongly believes in what he is doing. See you guys in happier posts and don’t let this mess bait you as he’s hot air and an avatar.

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