"One Life to Live" to be canceled, "Kish" to "All My Children"?

NOT FAIR!! Grrrrrr..

This the worst soap news ever!

When, if it supposed to happen, would it happen next year? Beginning, end?..

Weird thing to transfer actors/characters from one soap to the other, but if it means KISH can stay around even if OLTL doesn't, than hurray!... Or not.. If it means, KISH's story will be put on the backburner on AMC, then, I'd rather they wrap it up now on OLTL with a happy ending, of sorts.

Damnit!

well, hopefully if they do move to AMC, the writers go along with them.

either way, it kind of sucks to be on soaps in this day and age. I wonder if GH will be cancelled anytime soon. I only watch for my favorite couple, but other than that, i think the show stinks like hell. I think all the teen storylines have screwed it up

I just want to make sure I understand.

Is it the actors that are moving from OLTL or is it the actors AND the characters? And this would be in California, not New York?

I know characters have crossed over on soaps and other shows on the same network before but is this a new thing for One Life to Live and All My Children to have characters crossing between the two?

Do tell.

The character moves makes sense....

Oliver and Kyle are new and bring a small fan base with them to boost AMC.

And Blair and Todd have been bringing in the dough forever for the last 15 years its seems. Interesting to TBTD?!  

Vicki and Dorian ARE OLTL so it wouldn't make sense to bring them.

OLTL though is so much better!

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If I bring out the devil in you, he was there all along!

<gasp>

...OOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Without the brilliant, witty, OTT plotlines and overall style of OLTL, Kish just wouldn't be the same.  And Todd and Blair without Tea?  Bite your tongue!

The only time I ever tried to watch AMC, I recorded one of the weekend marathons from Soapnet.  I turned it off about halfway through when I realized I'd watched over two episodes and couldn't recall literally anything about the plots.

I suppose I'd make the switch and give it a chance out of loyalty to the actors, but I'd rather follow them loyally to something I actually believed I might enjoy.

Feh.  I have to go watch OLTL now.

AMC has almost the same ratings than OLTL and worse reviews, so i don't understand why they choose OLTL to be axed.

It sucks that the only two soaps with gay storylines are surrounded by cancelation rumours. Even in the case of ATWT, it will be far more difficult to justified the cancellation that GL. GL was the last in the ratings far from the rest. ATWT right now has similar ratings than OLTL and AMC and it's not too far from GH.

I hope that at least they give the soaps a proper time to try to get better ratings

i was just telling my dad that maybe to help ratings, soaps should only be aired at night. nobody is home during the days anymore like they use to be.

 it'd be like in the 50's when TV first came out, you could only turn the tv on certain times of the day to watch shows. hell, i think showing tv shows on during the day is plain dumb. as i said, nobody is home nowadays during the day. oh well. thats the way it is i guess.

Hmm, well I'll wait until that "likely" is gone before I worry too much.  I know the state of soaps in general and OLTL in particular is such that this is a very real possibility, but for now I'll deal with the realities and still hope for the best.  I find AMC so much less entertaining, and already pretty crowded...so my fingers are crossed OLTL gets another reprieve next year.

Especially since they're theoretically investing the time and effort to move the show to AMC's old studios in January.

Hold your horses everybody...

This is NELSON BRANCO reporting this.  He's not exactly above using his position to rally the troops.  He LOVES OLTL (and I can't blame him) but there's a few holes in this theory big enough to drive a tank through.

First of all, the idea, the very IDEA, that AMC would consider taking on the characters of Fish and Kyle is ludicrous.  AMC's head writer, Chuck Pratt, isn't interested in writing for gay characters.  His mangled attempts at a lesbian love story speak for themselves.  Secondly, Scott Evans isn't even on CONTRACT at OLTL... if the characters were as much in demand as Nelson wishes they were, OLTL would put him on contract.

There's some mileage in the theory that ABC sees AMC and GH as more "marquee" soaps.  AMC has Erica Kane and GH is, well, GH.  Both of those shows have SOME measure of pop culture presence, whereas OLTL doesn't.  But the beancounters at ABC aren't likely to forget that OLTL has a better demo, comes in CONSISTENTLY under budget and has fewer big $$$ stars (especially if Brian Frons successfully lures Rebecca Budig, Eden Riegel and others back to AMC once they move to L.A.)

I'm just saying, take this with a grain of salt.  Nelson Branco IS the Perez Hilton of soap "journalism" so take that for what it's worth.

As zanefan says, there's no way Pratt will write for gay men. And why would they move a recurring actor like Scott Evans? He could be dumped at any time.

Why would Kassie dePaiva move to AMC when they have dumped all actresses in her age range, minus Susan Lucci (who is the show's figurehead)? 

I've been watching AMC for 25 years, and OLTL for about 5 or 6 years.  AMC is the worst it's ever been, and with the entire production moving to LA in January, they'll be losing those actors who don't want to switch coasts.  It doesn't seem likely that a few of the OLTL actors would also want to relocate their lives and their families to LA, in hopes that AMC will continue past the next couple of years.

The writing and acting on OLTL is SO much better than AMC right now, it's sad to think that it may be cancelled, while AMC continues on its misguided path.  The latest offense by AMC is the firing of gorgeous hunk Aiden Turner, who was the main reason I've been tuning in for the last few years.  I believe that after AMC's move to LA, they will lose more viewers and eventually be cancelled, hopefully allowing ABC to keep OLTL and KISH on the air.

I usually take Branco with a grain of salt but Jamey Giddens over at Daytime Confidential has been saying much the same thing for a while now and his reporting is, generally, on the up and up. Giddens did not, however, get into the specifics of who Frons would save by crossing them over. 

My optimism is based on the fact that we haven't yet heard definitively about who from the AMC cast is going to make the move (or become bicoastal) once the show moves to LA. I think the show's going to lose a ton of viewers and it'll be difficult for Frons to play favorites in the face of all of that.  

That said, if the rumors of OLTL's demise are true, I can't imagine:

1. Susan Haskell not going over to AMC. It seems HIGHLY improbable to me that, if AMC were looking to keep Thorsten Kaye, they wouldn't be seriously about him bringing his wife along. 

2. Kyle and Oliver moving to Pine Valley. I just can't imagine bringing in these two characters when the writing team at AMC has been unwilling to write well for the most beloved gay/lesbian character ever in daytime, Bianca Montgomery. I'm sorry but I have to call BS on that one...there's no way that's happening. 

It seems like ABC, to save money, is going to collapse its two weaker (in the ratings) shows into one show to save money, but to keep some essance of both shows around.  Am I thrilled with the idea?  Not really.  OLTL and AMC are very different shows.  OLTL is more about diverse community and a mixture of high camp and social storylines.  AMC is a little more glossy and a lot more camp.  It lacks the social edge that OLTL has carried with it over the years.  If they are going to collapse both the shows into one show they should rename it at least.  It just seems like ABC wants to get out of filming in New York and tighten their daytime schedule. It is cheaper to produce two hours of soap opera than three.  If they do the move though, I hope they evanly divide the backstage talent, because AMC sucks at managing a larger cast.   

By the by, AMC and OLTL take place in the same universe, and were created by the same person (Agnes Nixon).  There was a little joke last year when David Vickers came back as David Vickeroshi.  He was walking down the side of a highway and there was a sign that said Llanview 12 miles/Pine Valley 22 Miles (or something like that.)   

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The idea of losing what I think is the best-written/best acted show on TV (daytime OR primetime) literally breaks my heart. Especially the possibility of losing Kish.

I don't like the idea of Kish or any other OLTL character moving over to AMC; the latter program is pretty dreadful and, as others have stated, I doubt Chuck Pratt would even bother to do anything with these characters. (A similar thing happened when Another World was cancelled: several characters from that show moved over to ATWT, but were gone within a few years, their characters badly or under-used.)

I've heard the rumors that ABC Daytime VP Brian Frons favors AMC and GH over OLTL, which is sad, considering how vastly superior OLTL is to either show. But OLTL is the only one of the three that consistantly comes in under budget and actually makes money, so to cancel it (especially when you realize it gets better ratings than the prime-time soap Melrose Place) seems silly to me.

But if it must go, I'd rather 2 options occur with Kish:

1. They disappear with the show: Fish and Kyle together, raising Stacy's baby. And Scott Evans and Brett Claywell have the talent to go on to bigger and better things in prime-time TV or film.

2. Why doesn't ABC, which partly owns all three of their daytime soaps, spin the gay characters from these soaps into their own gay-oriented soap opera, which could air late nights on SoapNet or even licensed to Logo? Say, have Fish, Kyle and Nick move to, oh, Philadelphia, as well as Bianca (from AMC) and Lucas (from GH), maybe bring back Billy Douglas as an adult, and even have certain characters from the OLTL/AMC/GH universe pop in from time to time, such as Cristian, Layla, Stacy and Téa from OLTL, Erica from AMC and Bobbie from GH. And have Ron Carlivati or Sri Rao (GH: Night Shift) write it.

If they decide to cancel the show, at least give them the time to wrap up the stories logically and to the satisfaction of the fans.

I've been watching just for Kish. I seriously ff thru anything that doesn't involve them, unless a hotties has his shirt off. Then I slow down for a minute or two.

Let's hope they do right by Kish if this news is true.